Finding the Fray

Jeff Pelliccio
March 25, 2026
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You’ve felt the friction before. The meeting where marketing is celebrating lead volume and sales can’t convert a single one. The initiative that stalled because three departments had three different scripts. The moment you realize everyone’s working hard — just not together.

In this episode, Jeff Pelliccio and Erin MacKenzie sit down with Anna Frazzetto, Founder and CEO of AFM Strategic Partners, for Part 1 of a two-part conversation about what it actually costs when your organization operates as loose threads instead of connected fabric. Anna shares what she’s seen firsthand, including a 23% revenue loss at one company where back-office systems weren’t aligned with the services being delivered. She walks through the evolution of the C-suite, why specialization created silos nobody intended, and what happened when she started having teams shadow each other across departments. The results were a paradigm shift in how the organization operated and it started with mutual respect, not a reorg.

This is the diagnosis. Part 2 is the fix.

Key Takeaways

  • Alignment isn’t a buzzword — it’s a revenue driver — Only 31% of employees are engaged at work, and 84% of marketers say cross-functional work feels like dragging an anchor. The organizations that figure out how to weave their departments together see compounding returns.
  • Most organizations have all the threads — they’re missing the loom — The talent, the tools, and the expertise are already there. What’s missing is the structure that connects them. Without shared metrics, interlocking goals, and deliberate coordination, departments run parallel instead of together.
  • The C-suite evolved for good reason — but lost end-to-end ownership — Specialization addressed complexity. But in creating a CRO, CSO, CMO, CDO, and more, organizations lost anyone responsible for the full journey. The threads got stronger. The fabric disappeared.
  • Silos cost real money — Anna observed a 23% revenue impact when back-office systems weren’t aligned with service delivery. That number only became visible after an organizational change proved the delta. Most companies don’t even measure it.
  • Shadow programs break silos faster than reorgs — When Anna had sales sit with recruiters and recruiters sit with IT, mutual respect replaced finger-pointing. Teams started solving problems together because they finally understood what the other side was dealing with.
  • Start with baby steps, not big bangs — Fear and tenure are the two biggest barriers to organizational change. Anna’s advice: pitch the smallest structural shift that creates alignment. One department realignment. One shared metric. One interlocked goal. Build from there.
  • Come with solutions, not just problems — For change-makers who aren’t in leadership yet: do the homework, understand the players, and present possible paths forward. Even imperfect solutions show leadership that you’re invested in the company’s future.

Sponsors

Allied Insight: When your departments aren’t woven together, your marketing feels it first. Allied Insight helps staffing and consulting businesses build strategies that connect — not just campaigns that compete for attention. The Preferred Marketing Partner of Staffing and Consulting businesses.

All Things Staffing: The threads are already out there, industry insights, case studies, and practical resources that connect the dots. Expert Resources for the Staffing Community.

About

Jeff Pelliccio

Founder, Allied Insight. Publisher, All Things Staffing. Co-host, Highly Adaptive Podcast. Jeff helps staffing brands grow on purpose—clear strategy, clean analytics, and zero fluff.
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